BEEF.
I’m in Singapore. And Suanie smss me that we’re out in the NST yesterday for blogging for them.
“You’re not going to like it,” she texts
“Why?! Tell me now!!!”
She tried mms-ing me the image, i couldn’t get it.
So she typed it out word for word.
I read it and i blew.
I blew so badly, my anger fumes were spreading all around me
“Joyce is a cute 23-year-old who is into all the pleasures of life, especially fashion. Her blog, however, has an inordinate amount of content dedicated to TV host and radio deejay, Adam Carruthers. Guess it helps readership. Hits per month: Over 50,000.”
What. The. Fuck. Is. That.
“…has an inordinate amount of content dedicated..”
What?! Like as if i fucking blog about him as if its a fan blog is it?
Perhaps it has an inordinate amount on him because he plays a part in my life..?!
Just like all my other friends? Or just like how i blogged about my previous boyfriend’s conversations and mine before him???
Make me sound as if i bloody tumpang his glamour to get hits.
Why do you think i refer to him as ‘Smellie’? So that i don’t always have to write his name out!
I HATE BENCI people who connect my blogging with blogging about him
Even when the Malay Mail interviewed me last time, i told AmirHafizi – “No mention about him. No. Dowan. None at all.”
I. Don’t. Like.
“Guess it helps readership”
Guess it helps readership?!?!!?
I apparently HAD the readership before we got together!
*He* was part of my readership for fuck’s sake!
I was so pissed off, i smsed him, “Did you read the fucking NST today yet?”
Poor boy sleepily called me back to hear his girlfriend screaming on the phone like a mad pontianak (though i was trying to maintain cos Mooky’s friends were in the car with me -_-)
After my ranting, he meekly asked, “Are you mad at me?”
-_- “No. Of course i’m not mad at you la. Ish.”
Then at night when i got back from Attica, i checked my email to see the NST link Suanie sent me
Since some time had passed, and anger is said to decrease with time
Plus i noticed the name on the article and i know the writer
I don’t reckon i have any problems with him so i tried…
I tried reading it from another point of view
You know, the positive kind
Cannot.
Cannot.
It still comes out negative in a way.
Makes me sound like a fucking bimbo and that my claim to blogging fame is cos i blog bout Adam.
Half the description of my blog and me was him and what he does.
Why must mention him?!
I PALING BENCI.
Great. Fantastic.
Thanks alot, Shannon Teoh.
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I think it was more than a couple of entries before I even realized you were blogging about a guy whose name was apparently “Smellie.”
._. I come here for The Fairy.
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I think it was more than a couple of entries before I even realized you were blogging about a guy whose name was apparently “Smellie.”
._. I come here for The Fairy.
you dont even blog about him all the time what..pfft..
go fairy!
you dont even blog about him all the time what..pfft..
go fairy!
WHAT THE FUCK WEI. YOUR BLOG WAS FAMOUS LONG BEFORE YOU DATED ADAM LAH.
you know, i suddenly remember this isn’t the first time i’ve seen something like this. as in fairy’s blog widely-read because of the bf. shit, i can’t remember where. will tell u when i find it.
n check with the writer to see if it was the editor’s idea to portray u in such a bimbotic light lah. if it is, spare the poor fler. if not, strangle him eni. so annoying msian media. *rolls eyes*
WHAT THE FUCK WEI. YOUR BLOG WAS FAMOUS LONG BEFORE YOU DATED ADAM LAH.
you know, i suddenly remember this isn’t the first time i’ve seen something like this. as in fairy’s blog widely-read because of the bf. shit, i can’t remember where. will tell u when i find it.
n check with the writer to see if it was the editor’s idea to portray u in such a bimbotic light lah. if it is, spare the poor fler. if not, strangle him eni. so annoying msian media. *rolls eyes*
Hah? It was shanon ah? -____-“
I was standing right next to him when I received your sms wei. I think I read it out loud to Zedeck too. HAhahahhahha. Aiyoh salah.
Hah? It was shanon ah? -____-“
I was standing right next to him when I received your sms wei. I think I read it out loud to Zedeck too. HAhahahhahha. Aiyoh salah.
salah..
salah..
After my ranting, he meekly asked, “Are you mad at me?”
awwww…
on a serious note, can u like request for a public apology? not that it created defamation or anything, but just to sort things out.
After my ranting, he meekly asked, “Are you mad at me?”
awwww…
on a serious note, can u like request for a public apology? not that it created defamation or anything, but just to sort things out.
“Perhaps it has an inordinate amount on him because he plays a part in my life..?!”
Well, that would be exactly it. As that reason is the most obvious one, why would anyone think otherwise?
I think writing “inordinate amount of content dedicated to pictures of her hanging out with several celebrities” would’ve seem even more groupie-like. Although, I guess, you’d take both sentences to be equally inflammatory. Since, you’d also see how your being friends with them is the reason that content is there, but still find that it was wrong to write that sentence.
Sepaking of guessing, I could only guess it helps readership because of two small statistical facts.
1. Your current CQ hitcounter does not go back to a time before you started going out with him. I am assuming this because the term AdamPoserPan goes back to before this point of time.
2. The day you posted the videos of adam, it was the highest number of hits you got for a single day without a timespan of three days before and after it (meaning a week) and also the highest for over a week before it. It could’ve been just coincidence, which is why it was a guess.
Of course, all of the above does not change the fact that I am sorry if I have hurt you in any way. I was given the assignment on a short deadline and hammered out what I thought would best serve readership of Monsterblog – which was the point of the article, objective journalism be damned.
I cannot, as Cheneille_Neo observes (annoying isn’t it? and guess who joyce writes for?), see how it portrayed you in a bimbotic light, unless bimbo means something other than what i think it does but i do see that you are sensitive about being cast as someone hitching a ride on the back of someone else.
I hope that whatever your readers, NST readers and people who read Harry Potter think and say, that you will understand that this was never my intention no matter which way (positive or begative) one intends to read it.
I also hope this does not equate to being stared daggers at by you or your friends in future, although that is purely your prerogative.
Shannon
“Perhaps it has an inordinate amount on him because he plays a part in my life..?!”
Well, that would be exactly it. As that reason is the most obvious one, why would anyone think otherwise?
I think writing “inordinate amount of content dedicated to pictures of her hanging out with several celebrities” would’ve seem even more groupie-like. Although, I guess, you’d take both sentences to be equally inflammatory. Since, you’d also see how your being friends with them is the reason that content is there, but still find that it was wrong to write that sentence.
Sepaking of guessing, I could only guess it helps readership because of two small statistical facts.
1. Your current CQ hitcounter does not go back to a time before you started going out with him. I am assuming this because the term AdamPoserPan goes back to before this point of time.
2. The day you posted the videos of adam, it was the highest number of hits you got for a single day without a timespan of three days before and after it (meaning a week) and also the highest for over a week before it. It could’ve been just coincidence, which is why it was a guess.
Of course, all of the above does not change the fact that I am sorry if I have hurt you in any way. I was given the assignment on a short deadline and hammered out what I thought would best serve readership of Monsterblog – which was the point of the article, objective journalism be damned.
I cannot, as Cheneille_Neo observes (annoying isn’t it? and guess who joyce writes for?), see how it portrayed you in a bimbotic light, unless bimbo means something other than what i think it does but i do see that you are sensitive about being cast as someone hitching a ride on the back of someone else.
I hope that whatever your readers, NST readers and people who read Harry Potter think and say, that you will understand that this was never my intention no matter which way (positive or begative) one intends to read it.
I also hope this does not equate to being stared daggers at by you or your friends in future, although that is purely your prerogative.
Shannon
“adam, who???” :p
i read you because you’re ‘you’……
’nuff said.
“adam, who???” :p
i read you because you’re ‘you’……
’nuff said.
whoaaaaaaaa………… fairy anger!!! chill girl.. stupid collumnists…
whoaaaaaaaa………… fairy anger!!! chill girl.. stupid collumnists…
oh shannon, i know joyce is working for the media. for christ’s sake I’M going to be working for the media. doesn’t change the fact that it’s annoying – pardon my shallow choice of words and limited vocabulary. u may remember there was an article on Malaysia’s hottest bloggers or summat earlier, and surely u must’ve noticed how it was written in such a way that made the girls seem less read-worthy and more gawk-worthy (thanks to the hot factor) than they really are, save one or two of them. =P
and fyi, bimbo didn’t really come to my mind until joyce mentioned it herself in the post, although i must say ur little description of her didn’t exactly suggest that she’s the brightest person around.
cheers~
oh shannon, i know joyce is working for the media. for christ’s sake I’M going to be working for the media. doesn’t change the fact that it’s annoying – pardon my shallow choice of words and limited vocabulary. u may remember there was an article on Malaysia’s hottest bloggers or summat earlier, and surely u must’ve noticed how it was written in such a way that made the girls seem less read-worthy and more gawk-worthy (thanks to the hot factor) than they really are, save one or two of them. =P
and fyi, bimbo didn’t really come to my mind until joyce mentioned it herself in the post, although i must say ur little description of her didn’t exactly suggest that she’s the brightest person around.
cheers~
Shannon, if i were going out with someone who wasn’t known in some way, you wouldn’t write that right?
Anyway, doesn’t matter. Just let it go okay. I appreciate your apology and i understand “assignment on a short deadline and hammered out what I thought would best serve readership of Monsterblog”.
Another thing tho. When i read this:
“2. The day you posted the videos of adam, it was the highest number of hits you got for a single day without a timespan of three days before and after it (meaning a week) and also the highest for over a week before it. It could’ve been just coincidence, which is why it was a guess.”
I thought to myself, “really meh? walau.”
And naturally went to check.
My highest hits around that time can obviously be seen as 19th of June OR 3rd of July
http://cqcounter.com/?sts,day,,,,JoyceKW
The videos were posted on the 6th of July
In fact. whatever i wrote on those dates were just my usual nonsense. No videos. Next time don’t simply state, please.
Shannon, if i were going out with someone who wasn’t known in some way, you wouldn’t write that right?
Anyway, doesn’t matter. Just let it go okay. I appreciate your apology and i understand “assignment on a short deadline and hammered out what I thought would best serve readership of Monsterblog”.
Another thing tho. When i read this:
“2. The day you posted the videos of adam, it was the highest number of hits you got for a single day without a timespan of three days before and after it (meaning a week) and also the highest for over a week before it. It could’ve been just coincidence, which is why it was a guess.”
I thought to myself, “really meh? walau.”
And naturally went to check.
My highest hits around that time can obviously be seen as 19th of June OR 3rd of July
http://cqcounter.com/?sts,day,,,,JoyceKW
The videos were posted on the 6th of July
In fact. whatever i wrote on those dates were just my usual nonsense. No videos. Next time don’t simply state, please.
*hugs*
*hugs*
as for that article, i did read it. i had presumed the bloggers went into it with eyes open since there was quite a specific sort of photos (a shoot even?) involved.
so cheneille, it wasnt vocab or choice of words. it was irony. certainly more so because joyce now writes for that publication.
joyce was upset over what she believes to be an act of malice. in using the same phrase she did, you, whether wittingly or not, fanned the flame. perhaps not much so, and not even that you didnt have the right to – but my point in those few lines was to point out that in spite of what others might say (especially friends who, in times of need, find themselves too eager to agree with the complainant), i had reasons as outlined earlier for writing what i did.
however, i dont intend to, as joyce puts it, have ‘beef’ with you either. although you’re right about one thing, i didnt suggest she was the brightest person around – that title still belongs to this guy i knew back at school. and on the evidence of what i’ve read on her blog and the minimal contact i had with her, i have no reason to suggest this so. eventually, i made no mention of her intellect. however, it somehow still manages to suggest the complete opposite of brightness. i hadn’t realised that in the media/blogging, the lack of positive discrimination meant disapproval.
shannon
as for that article, i did read it. i had presumed the bloggers went into it with eyes open since there was quite a specific sort of photos (a shoot even?) involved.
so cheneille, it wasnt vocab or choice of words. it was irony. certainly more so because joyce now writes for that publication.
joyce was upset over what she believes to be an act of malice. in using the same phrase she did, you, whether wittingly or not, fanned the flame. perhaps not much so, and not even that you didnt have the right to – but my point in those few lines was to point out that in spite of what others might say (especially friends who, in times of need, find themselves too eager to agree with the complainant), i had reasons as outlined earlier for writing what i did.
however, i dont intend to, as joyce puts it, have ‘beef’ with you either. although you’re right about one thing, i didnt suggest she was the brightest person around – that title still belongs to this guy i knew back at school. and on the evidence of what i’ve read on her blog and the minimal contact i had with her, i have no reason to suggest this so. eventually, i made no mention of her intellect. however, it somehow still manages to suggest the complete opposite of brightness. i hadn’t realised that in the media/blogging, the lack of positive discrimination meant disapproval.
shannon
“Shannon, if i were going out with someone who wasn’t known in some way, you wouldn’t write that right?”
Agreed. But i was taught that news values includes celebrity. sultanmuzaffar blogs about AF, and i mentioned that because i believe that people would want to know about it.
here’s something to think about – if people say that person A goes out with celebrity B to get famous, then by that same token does person C go out with person D to be ‘unknown’? yet people do think that way. i do agree that in future, i should take care not to feed this illogical attitude amongst the general public.
By mentioning Adam in my article, i thought it would be a selling point for monster. “guess it helps readership” i thought would be a nice touch of irony. isnt it logical to think that people do want to read about him? he was a cleo bachelor…
“My highest hits around that time can obviously be seen as 19th of June OR 3rd of July”
Sorry, i didnt make myself clear. I only took into account unique hits, as this is a better reflection of readership. and 19th of june was outside of the ‘one-week’ period i qualified in my point.
and ‘without’ should be ‘within’. whatlah my lousy english.
anyway, am glad you have appreciated/accepted? my apology. welcome to nst, hope it’s a smotoher ride from here.
“Shannon, if i were going out with someone who wasn’t known in some way, you wouldn’t write that right?”
Agreed. But i was taught that news values includes celebrity. sultanmuzaffar blogs about AF, and i mentioned that because i believe that people would want to know about it.
here’s something to think about – if people say that person A goes out with celebrity B to get famous, then by that same token does person C go out with person D to be ‘unknown’? yet people do think that way. i do agree that in future, i should take care not to feed this illogical attitude amongst the general public.
By mentioning Adam in my article, i thought it would be a selling point for monster. “guess it helps readership” i thought would be a nice touch of irony. isnt it logical to think that people do want to read about him? he was a cleo bachelor…
“My highest hits around that time can obviously be seen as 19th of June OR 3rd of July”
Sorry, i didnt make myself clear. I only took into account unique hits, as this is a better reflection of readership. and 19th of june was outside of the ‘one-week’ period i qualified in my point.
and ‘without’ should be ‘within’. whatlah my lousy english.
anyway, am glad you have appreciated/accepted? my apology. welcome to nst, hope it’s a smotoher ride from here.
Wow, all this going on is super cool. But lifes like that, take it cool. Life’s too short to get angry with one another!
Cheers.
Wow, all this going on is super cool. But lifes like that, take it cool. Life’s too short to get angry with one another!
Cheers.
Fairy, I’m your ‘silent’ reader, and I blog, too. Even though you have accepted Shannon’s apology – I still think what he’s written about you wasn’t professional. I say this because the true spirit of being a journalist or alike is to potrait or report things FAIRLY. No excuse is ever good enough. Should always do your homework! If you can’t give a sound and un-biased articles within a short period, that really means you are not a well informed ‘media’ employee. And his 3 comments WERE JUST FULL OF PATHETIC EXCUSES.
Sorry, Shannon. I meant well, I’m referring to the matter, not of personal.
-Jamie
Fairy, I’m your ‘silent’ reader, and I blog, too. Even though you have accepted Shannon’s apology – I still think what he’s written about you wasn’t professional. I say this because the true spirit of being a journalist or alike is to potrait or report things FAIRLY. No excuse is ever good enough. Should always do your homework! If you can’t give a sound and un-biased articles within a short period, that really means you are not a well informed ‘media’ employee. And his 3 comments WERE JUST FULL OF PATHETIC EXCUSES.
Sorry, Shannon. I meant well, I’m referring to the matter, not of personal.
-Jamie
eh Shannon, i said already, nothing la.
i emo saje cos like i wrote, i just memang benci ppl connecting my blog to that… And everyone else seems to know that.
And. Obviously you wouldnt’ know that fact cos at least i was able to tell Amir last time.
“By mentioning Adam in my article, i thought it would be a selling point for monster. “guess it helps readership” i thought would be a nice touch of irony.”
I know… nice touch of irony and all. I just hate it.
“anyway, am glad you have appreciated/accepted? my apology. welcome to nst, hope it’s a smotoher ride from here.”
Yeah. Just was angry for a day π
See you around
eh Shannon, i said already, nothing la.
i emo saje cos like i wrote, i just memang benci ppl connecting my blog to that… And everyone else seems to know that.
And. Obviously you wouldnt’ know that fact cos at least i was able to tell Amir last time.
“By mentioning Adam in my article, i thought it would be a selling point for monster. “guess it helps readership” i thought would be a nice touch of irony.”
I know… nice touch of irony and all. I just hate it.
“anyway, am glad you have appreciated/accepted? my apology. welcome to nst, hope it’s a smotoher ride from here.”
Yeah. Just was angry for a day π
See you around
joyce: ouch. well, at least she gave an apology. that helps right? IN a way.
just wanted to put my thoughts to you that i and im sure many would agree, read your blog because of you.
because of the wonderful pictures you take
because of the unique blogging stlye you have
because of the comical and honest way you seem to potray yourself.
IS ALL YOU.
we like your blog because of YOU.
no others.
Not sucking up to you or anything but Just wanted you to know that.
Keep it up as what you’ve been doing!
*hugs*
-kelz
joyce: ouch. well, at least she gave an apology. that helps right? IN a way.
just wanted to put my thoughts to you that i and im sure many would agree, read your blog because of you.
because of the wonderful pictures you take
because of the unique blogging stlye you have
because of the comical and honest way you seem to potray yourself.
IS ALL YOU.
we like your blog because of YOU.
no others.
Not sucking up to you or anything but Just wanted you to know that.
Keep it up as what you’ve been doing!
*hugs*
-kelz
sigh.. more drama? haha!
anyway the dude probably just started reading ur blog la.. thats just it… too bad he has to rely on counters n stats to base his opinions on… rather than read the real content… can’t blame him or u…
sigh.. more drama? haha!
anyway the dude probably just started reading ur blog la.. thats just it… too bad he has to rely on counters n stats to base his opinions on… rather than read the real content… can’t blame him or u…
nyukyen says i didnt do my homework and wasnt well-informed. well, i did visit the blog, i did see stuff about adam. i did check the stats. if this isnt enough to write three sentences on the blog, then i guess we have different standards for ‘fair journalism’. but don’t worry, no offence taken. i just hope that you won’t be disappointed with all journalists in the future.
headup, on the other hand, says i had to rely on stats rather than read real content to base my opinions on. my opinions on what? joyce? i dont recall giving my opinion on joyce in that article. i gave my opinion on the blog. and as per above, i did read it, and if stats aren’t ‘real’ why do so many people have hitcounters?
nyukyen says i didnt do my homework and wasnt well-informed. well, i did visit the blog, i did see stuff about adam. i did check the stats. if this isnt enough to write three sentences on the blog, then i guess we have different standards for ‘fair journalism’. but don’t worry, no offence taken. i just hope that you won’t be disappointed with all journalists in the future.
headup, on the other hand, says i had to rely on stats rather than read real content to base my opinions on. my opinions on what? joyce? i dont recall giving my opinion on joyce in that article. i gave my opinion on the blog. and as per above, i did read it, and if stats aren’t ‘real’ why do so many people have hitcounters?
emo girl is teh scaryy
emo girl is teh scaryy
Chill babe.. Chill… i read ur blog because of ur sense of humour and creativity.. ((((hugsz))))
-Bev-
Chill babe.. Chill… i read ur blog because of ur sense of humour and creativity.. ((((hugsz))))
-Bev-
To be fair to you, Shannon, we all know you can’t please everybody, and it’s not your job to.
However, I see this blog as an extension of Joyce, not of Adam via Joyce. You took it upon yourself to highlight Adam, and you’ve admitted to doing so as a selling point. I guess it’s painful to see the use of the celebrity card overshadowing the real person underneath.
Two things. Firstly, blaming deadlines should never be an excuse. Lastly, justifying a cheap shot as “a nice touch of irony” is just poor form.
To be fair to you, Shannon, we all know you can’t please everybody, and it’s not your job to.
However, I see this blog as an extension of Joyce, not of Adam via Joyce. You took it upon yourself to highlight Adam, and you’ve admitted to doing so as a selling point. I guess it’s painful to see the use of the celebrity card overshadowing the real person underneath.
Two things. Firstly, blaming deadlines should never be an excuse. Lastly, justifying a cheap shot as “a nice touch of irony” is just poor form.
Relax.. I love your blog(and not cos of Adam)! =D
Relax.. I love your blog(and not cos of Adam)! =D
Joyce, you done with Shannon? My turn now… conservative????
Joyce, you done with Shannon? My turn now… conservative????